How to put a picture in your forum messages
Other related pages that I have created that may be helpful to you

http://www.marynpauln.com/sigtagimages.html
Placing sigtags in your PCCrafter profile so that they
show up in your messages, with information
about where to find free tags, tutorials for learning
how to make them, sizing them, and finding
a spot online to post or upload and house them.
It repeats some of the HOW-TO put links to pictures in forum postings
information found below, but does include separate additional info.

http://www.teas2dine4.com/msnhousehow2.html
Moving into a MSN Group and setting up a Album
to upload your pictures or sigtags to, with links
to Groups owned/managed by PCCrafter Hugster's
that have openings for you to move and establish
a House.
It repeats much of the HOW-TO put links to pictures
information found below, but does include additional
help for how to create an album, etc.

If you choose to obtain your sigtag from the
PCCrafter.com Signature Gallery, I created
this page for help with that option.
http://marynpauln.com/4siggallerytags.html

I am not employed or affiliated with PCCrafter.com and/or MSN. Information quoted and or screens saves  used from PCCrafter.com or its Message Forums are used for informational purposes only.



First things first
in order to put a picture in your message, the picture
must be located on the internet. It cannot be on your home computer
and copied and/or pasted into a message. The picture must be uploaded
in some manner to a location on the internet that will allow you to link to it.
The same goes for your signature tags. Many people who are pcCrafter forum members
join a MSN group and create a photo album, where they can upload from
their own computers, pictures and/or sigtag graphics, or other graphics they
want available for others to view and or have access to. 
The place that you may host your pictures are usually referred to as
a HOUSE. 

You must find the PROPERTIES of the ACTUAL IMAGE itself, if you post a link
to the "web page" that the image is on - between the image tags [img] and [/img]
your image will NOT SHOW UP in the forum message.

I have an image (along with other images) posted on this webpage of 
one of my own websites : (this is one of my Free ones that I have, this one is hosted by geocities.yahoo.com)
http://www.geocities.com/libmary/oldsalts.htm

Here below is the web address of a specific image on that page:
If you click on this link you will see just that image
http://www.geocities.com/libmary/bcc1josh00.jpg

I found the properties of Just this image 

 

Once your own image is posted  to a location of your choice
on the internet, go to the web page it is on, make sure
you are viewing the image at full size, NOT the thumbnail. Right mouse click on the
actual full size image and find the PROPERTIES of that image - copy the LOCATION url
of that image. If it is very long it will break within a forum posting and it will not show up.
So you will need to take that long url that you copied from the properties of the image,
over to a website such as TinyURL http://www.tinyurl.com
Paste the long url web address in the box next to the words: Make tinyurl. Then after
the new tiny url has been made, there is a button to check "Open in New Window", that
will allow you to check if that new tiny url, leads to your image. If it does, then close that
window and copy the new tiny or shorter webaddress, and use that address to post between
your image tags  example - [img]http://tinyurl.com/45jy4[/img]



For those who own or want to move into a House at MSN groups

I have created a page with information on how to create a album/house
after joining a MSN Group, it also lists several groups that are currently
open and accepting new members. You also can create your very own group.
see:  http://www.teas2dine4.com/msnhousehow2.html
Please Note: MSN Groups are not your only option to upload pictures or 
sigtags etc. 
I have also listed several options other than MSN for finding a place to house your HOUSE pictures.



Steps to follow for posting an image in your forum messages

When you write a message there is a tool bar within your message, this is available to only
you when "you" are the author of a message. These tools will help you with writing your messages.

The button that looks like a mountain and a sun with a yellow color is the "image" tag button.
When you press it, it automatically inserts the image tags within the body of  your
message the tags are [img] and [/img]. All tags within a message have an open tag and
a closed tag  the forward slash "/" must close all tags. All tags must be enclosed within
the brackets that look like this [ ] .  If you use any bracket such as { } or ( ) or < > your
picture or web address (also know as a URL) or do not close the tag [/img] - your picture 
will not show up.


For the following examples, because so many do have MSN houses
or want to join one, I will use my own MSN album house in the screen shots.


Once you have obtained a HOUSE and uploaded your photos and/or graphics
or sigtags you can go to your album, and find the image that you would like to
display within a forum message.
In most instances, you will choose to click on the thumbnail image of the
picture you want to put in your message to bring up the screen with it as full
size.



Once the full image is on the screen, place your mouse cursor on the image
and right click to bring up the menu, with "Properties as a selection"
choose Properties to find the Location of the image, it will start with
html://

The Location is the URL address of  "that image" - it is the address that you
want. Unfortunately MSN groups have Location/URL addresses that are
very long. They usually are too long for most message boards, and will break,
if this happens, your image will not show up, and your message will have a broken
image or a red x, show up.

The easiest way to remedy this, is to shorten the url, using a free online website
which will convert the long URL to a short one.
The website I will use for this example is TinyURL.com
http://tinyurl.com
*But there are other spots to shorten web location URLs such as:
http://www.6URL.com or http://metamark.net/



It is very important that you run  your mouse over entire long
Location URL and get all of it, then copy it to your clipboard. 
An easy way to do that:
highlight entire url, then press your control key
on your keyboard "Ctrl" and then the letter "C" at the same time. 
That will copy what you highlighted to your clipboard.
When you visit the website at which you will shorten it, you can
press the control key again and at the same
time the letter "V", this will "paste" the long url to the box or line 
where you need to place it, to have the website, shorten it.



The website used to shorten this url location address is http://www.tinyurl.com

The next screen shows the shortened url, copy that short or tiny url and that is what
you will use to paste between your [img] [/img] tags within the message.

Also note: TinyURL has a test link, [Open in new window], click on that to
make sure it shows your image in the new window. If it does show the image
then close that window, and copy the tiny url or shortened one.
 

Some MSN group members, have found it handy to go back to their
album houses and edit the information about various images, such as sigtags
by putting the short url information within the Photo Title or Description.
That way it is always available for copying and pasting within their 
signature tag line in their profile or for posting pictures within forum postings.

 

Now I can log-in to the forum if I haven't already and type a message
and put the line in, that I copied from my msn house or I can press the 
button for the image tags and paste or type the url: http://tinyurl.com/6t2ft
between them. 
Remember there can be NO SPACES in the following line
[img]theurladdresshere[/img] and the address must start with http://



ALTERNATIVES TO MSN Groups houses to host your photos or sigtags.

Here are ALTERNATIVE websites that you can upload pictures to and post links to
in your forum messages - I have copied these directly from my sigtags information page

There are online photo and or image website hosting services , available to link images from.

**Note: your own Internet Service Provider may provide as part of your service - free web space - to host web pages and/or images
be sure to check with them first to find out details of all their services

Here are some suggestions for Free Image hosting sites

PhotoBucket.com
 provides free image hosting for Ebay, live journals, blogs, message boards, and online photo albums. Photobucket is reliable, fast and very simple to use. 
http://www.photobucket.com/
PhotoBucket tutorials
Ebay Auction Posting | Uploading with FTP | Upload publisher with Windows XP 
http://photobucket.com/tutorials/

Image Uploads
http://www.imageuploads.net/
Example FAQ
How does ImageUploads work?
Signup for an account or login if you already have an account and upload your images. It's as simple and easy as it gets.

Is direct/hot linking allowed on ImageUploads?
Yes direct or hot linking is allowed, especially convenient for message board, personal website or ebay auctions since our system outputs forum, html tag and url codes automatically.

Other sites to explore for posting sigtags, photos, and graphics/images

Picture trail
http://www.picturetrail.com/
ARTS AND CRAFTS
Many arts and crafts hobbyists use PictureTrail to host photos of their projects. This is a great way to facilitate interest and discussion with online friends about your arts and crafts interests.
http://www.picturetrail.com/webpages/photo_sharing_ideas.shtml

I opened a free account at picturetrail.com just to see what it was like -
they have some neat things you can do with photos and post them on Webpages - this wouldn't work for posting in a messageboard thread
- but lets see if I can put this album on this webpage here:
Click on each page to go to the next one

FreeImage Hosting
Our free image hosting service is a perfect place to host your images for auction listings, message forums, blog posts and much more.
http://www.afreeimagehost.com/

Free picture hosting
http://freepicturehosting.com/

ImageHosting
http://www.imagehosting.us/

Image Shack
http://www.imageshack.us/

Image Uploading
http://www.imageuploading.com/

Picgoo
http://hosting.picgoo.com/

Village Photos
http://www.villagephotos.com/

ZippyImages
http://www.zippyimages.com/

Want your very own website?

I own several websites, this particular one
marynpauln.com - is a site hosted for FREE at DotEasy.com - 
I use it for storing images and tutorials, etc. - but I don't even have a "home page" welcome created. Because the website doesn't get alot of traffic - having it hosted at doteasy is a good way for me to post pictures, sig tags etc. - and not have any annoying banner ads.

Buying the domain name was very easy, from doteasy and setting up was simple.

Here are some FREE sites to create web space all your own
*some of these will carry ads on your main pages but ads will not show when linking to your image or sigtag,
Free web space sites **
are NOT meant for Selling or high traffic pages
but are just fine for hosting your projects, directions/how-tos, family news, and photos etc.

http://geocities.yahoo.com

http://www.topcities.com/

http://www.bravenet.com/

http://www.freewebpage.org/

Free hosting for a website – no banner ads
http://free.hostdepartment.com/

http://www.doteasy.com

Search for more sites for hosting a website

Free web hosting search
http://www.freewebhostingsearch.com/

http://www.100-best-free-webspace.com/

http://www.absolutely-free-hosting.com/

If your free spot does not have an easy upload feature, you can use a FREE FTP utilility such as the one I use:
FTP Commander
http://www.internet-soft.com/ftpcomm.htm

Also see  other examples
Coffee Cup free ftp
http://www.tucows.com/preview/195147.html

Core FTP
http://www.coreftp.com/ 



Things to Remember

Now a couple of other reminders:
You should be mindful of image sizes.
Each time you post an image in your message, either your sigtag or any other picture,
The messageboard internet server at PCCrafter.com is actually connecting to
the internet server at the place you have your picture or graphic located.
It is using bandwidth from each other to access and bring the image into view.
If your image is large in size - (measured in "kb" or bytes) it will take awhile to
load - especially for people who are using internet dial-up services. 
Each person opening and reading messages on the forum message board are using their
own individual internet connection and it is what is being used by the PCCrafter.com server
and your website location of the picture - to connect and communicate with each other.
If their connection is slow, and the traffic heavy between the 2 computer servers, they
may be waiting for images to download, and sometimes they may even have to back
out of the message, rather than wait for the download to complete.

Also important to note - MSN group sites are often down or the traffic so busy at their
servers, that images may not be able to be accessed and they will display as a red x or broken image icon. And their are certain MSN groups that require that members be logged in, and or that you be a member of MSN, in order for their own internet connection to be able to pull up or view images or sigtags you may have placed within a message post.
PCCrafter.com servers also may at times be busy with high internet traffic, and may
have problems connecting to other computer servers, and your images may appear as
a red x. The same goes for connecting to the servers at TinyUrl.com.

In the screen save picture above - when opening the picture I am using as 
my example - MSN puts in below the image the image size in "kb" of the image
this particular image is 20kb.  see above
Try to keep your pictures under 50kb for efficient loading

PCCrafter.com Diva Lori has posted a message with regard to the sizing and other important
information about the use of signature tags in forum postings.
in the Cafe Diva community.
Read it here:
http://pccrafter.com/community/cafediva.aspx
 

So for everyones benefit, it is wise to first size or  resize any images 
or graphics you upload to the internet, so that they load quickly.

Most graphic / photo editing software, have image options for sizing images for
putting in email messages, or on webpages, etc. Use those features of the programs
you own first to size your images appropriately.

Also see these websites for further help or information for resizing images.
** these are copied from my main SigTag help page 
http://www.marynpauln.com/sigtagimages.html



Help with Images - what is a Gif, what is a Jpg,  how to resize, etc.

Animated images are saved as .gif files, .gif images are the only ones that can be saved as transparent. 
 .jpg images keep the best quality

Images can also be saved in .png .bmp and other image formats. For most internet images, choose either .gif or .jpg 

Info on Image Formats
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/tutors/image_formats.html

Articles/Info online of interest
Scaling Graphics for the Web
http://www.kumc.edu/webdev/graphics2/scaling.html

Sizing Graphics for the WEB
http://www.graphic-design.com/DTG/DTG-Solutions/60-Sizes.html

Web Graphics for Beginners
http://www.iboost.com/build/graphics/tutorials/wgforbeg/743.htm

THUMBNAIL IMAGES 
Resizing, reducing and reformatting graphics
excerpt quoted from website article
A "Thumbnail" is a small graphic image that is usually used as a link to either a larger version of that image or to another web site. The image used for the Thumbnail needs to be reduced and resized to a smaller graphic for a quicker download of your web page. The viewer then has the option to click on the Thumbnail if they want to see the larger picture, which will take longer to download, or if they want to visit another site that it is linked to.

A common mistake among web page designers (new and experienced) is not "reducing the bytes" and actually "resizing" the original image into a Thumbnail picture. A lot of web designers will just change the WIDTH and HEIGHT attribute of the picture in their < IMG SRC > tags, often to a size that is not the exact ratio of the original. 
Read entire article - talks about resizing "Animated" graphics as well
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/4642/thumbnail_bw.html
 

ImageMagik
Excerpt quoted from website - (download program for free)
Introduction to ImageMagick
ImageMagickTM, version 6.1.9-4, is a free software suite for the creation, modification and display of bitmap images. It can read, convert and write images in a large variety of formats. Images can be cropped, colors can be changed, various effects can be applied, images can be rotated and combined, and text, lines, polygons, ellipses and Bézier curves can be added to images and stretched and rotated.
ImageMagick is free software: it is delivered with full source code and can be freely used, copied, modified and distributed. Its license is compatible with the GPL. It runs on all major operating systems.
http://www.imagemagick.org/

Using ImageMagik v.6 for resizing and more
http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6/



Put your images on a "reduction program"

Some sites limit the size of image uploads
 Here are some free sites for help with “Reduction” of your image sizes

GifBot
GIFBot is a free tool that compresses your GIF, JPEG, and animated GIF images. Decrease image file size without sacrificing image quality!
http://www.netmechanic.com/accelerate.htm
http://www.netmechanic.com/GIFBot/optimize-graphic.htm

Image reduction tool
http://www.highpowergraphics.com/cruncher.html

DesignerWiz.com
.JPEG Image Byte Reduction Cruncher - Optimizer Generator
Make your .JPEG images load much faster by reducing the image size bytes.
Free .GIF Graphic Image Byte Reduction Cruncher Generator :
http://tinyurl.com/3n3sh

Find:Compression and Optimization Software
Software for compressing and optimizing GIFs, JPEGs, animations, 
and other images for the Web.
http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/optimizationsoftware/

Listing of Free software to download (*some are free to try only)
Graphics > Graphic Manipulation > Image Resizing 
http://www.freewarehome.com/Graphics/Graphic_Manipulation/Image_Resizing_t.html

These are links to graphics information and resources available on the Web and that can assist you in graphically enhancing a web page or web site.
http://www.callihan.com/weblinks/graphics.htm

Visit this website for information on
Animations, Graphics, Javascripts, resources, Free Software, Information, and more
http://www.bellsnwhistles.com/info.html



Other web pages  I have created for 
PCCrafter Hugster's 

How to Download, and Install PCCrafter content, find the Freebies, past purchases, etc.
http://www.marynpauln.com/downloadinstall.html

Saving "other or your own" image collections within HugBug Deluxe Browser
http://marynpauln.com/2saveinfolders.html 

Printing Image Collections from your Deluxe Browser
http://marynpauln.com/4printcollections.html

Accessing & Copying images from PDF files
http://www.teas2dine4.com/4pdfimages.html

Templates resources online - many crafters apply their HugWare graphics to templates to create a variety of boxes & bags, cards, cake slices, paper purses, and much more!
Click on this page to see a long listing of online websites that offer FREE Templates for Crafting and/or Business use. There are also links to Templates already filled in and ready to print, fold and go.
Plus the page contains a few tutorial links or tips to working with templates using various software programs.
http://www.teas2dine4.com/4templatelinks.html

Sayings, Quotes, Poems & More : Online Resource Links
http://www.teas2dine4.com/4sayingsnquotes.html

Fonts Online Resource Links
http://www.teas2dine4.com/4fontslinks.html

Related:
See this page - part of my Online Printables Resources
with informational links about Downloading stuff (pdf files, fonts, etc.) from the internet
http://www.teas2dine4.com/4printable2.html


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